Jonathan and Luke discuss Australian accents, reconstruction, community, theology of singing, and the refugee crisis.

A sermon that Richard Beck and Luke preached together on gratitude, prison and singing.

In the second part of the refugee crisis conversation we hear from Joel Houston  and  Ramjaane Niyoyita.

 Joel Houston, of Hillsong United and Hillsong New York, discusses his experience with the Syrian refugee crisis and the Christian call to respond.

Ramjaane Niyoyita, a Rwandan born as a refugee in the Congo now living in Austin, TX, discusses his experience as a Refugee, the importance of humor in tragedy and having to listen to Luke preach every week.

In the first of two discussions on the refugee crisis, Burmese refugee Ruhta* and Dr. Jessica Goudeau join the show to discuss the plight of refugees, leaving home, fear and Jessica's piece on Trump's rhetoric's effects on refugees in the Washington Post.

*Ruhta- fake name for her family's safety. 

We discuss the transformation process of faith of construction, deconstruction and reconstruction with pastor and author Brian Zahnd and filmmaker Paul Nevison.

For more on Brian Zahnd's reconstruction check out his book Water to Wine.

For more on Paul, listen to him giggle in the back of the Richard Rohr and Rob Bell podcasts.